I don't recall a real life situation where a recruit throws 2 dice to make his decision of where he's going to attend school. Why does it needed to be added to this game? Shouldn't the team that wins out through preferences, recruiting prestige and all the other factors that go into it, win the right to sign that recruit? Maybe I'm missing something?

I also think it's a bad idea for it will end up pi**ing off a lot of customers.

why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

In real life, to those final couple of schools that all probably put in a bunch of effort recruiting the kid I'm sure they feel the same way we will in this game if they don't get the player.

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

A major focus of this update has been to destroy the auction system that ruled recruiting before, now it's more of a lottery.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

If you're going to compare this to real life, I'd have to ask, does every RL recruit sign with the team that puts in the most effort?

Posted by possumfiend on 7/20/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

If you're going to compare this to real life, I'd have to ask, does every RL recruit sign with the team that puts in the most effort?

Absolutely not.However, it's not just effort that is factored into the equation.The recruit is going to go where his preferences match up, promised starts and minutes, certain type of offense and defense. All of these factors should eliminate any randomness, IMO. And if there is randomness after that point, there should be more preferences added to the list. Save the randomness for the game itself, it doesn't belong in recruiting.

+1 - I like it as long as it's fairly close. I don't think I high should beat a very high very often though.

There has to be a logistical reason why a certain recruit doesn't go to your school if you're winning the battle. I don't know of any recruit that would flip a coin to decide where to go to school. You have to look at it from the recruits perspective, not the coaches. If I'm the only one that see's an issue I'll keep my mouth shut, but I would be surprised if I'm alone here.

If you really need a logistical reason then feel free to think of it as representing intangible factors not accounted for in recruiting actions. Maybe he had a good rapport with the trainer, or his potential teammates, maybe he had a cousin that went to the school, or he liked that there was a McDonalds across the street from his dorm. Maybe he thought the girls were better looking on one campus. Maybe he likes academics and one school had a better chemistry program than the other. There are any number of reasons you could make up that aren't accounted for in the recruiting process. Most times those intangibles won't make a difference ... And sometimes they will.

Doggone, possum, that's a pretty good post.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

All part of Seble's vision of Hoops Parity where everyone is a winner. So even if you actually lost the battle, you can win.

less control over outcomes, it might (?) be more realistic, but is it more desirable for HD? Is it going to improve HD compared to the current game? Does it make the game more enjoyable and worth my money? Is it going to attract and/or retain coaches? Absolutely insane gamble on WIS part...

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 6:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by possumfiend on 7/20/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/20/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinzfan36 on 7/20/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
why, a lot of recruits in real life have 2 or 3 schools they usually narrow it down to throughout the recruiting process and choose from in the end. Isn't this the same thing?

Maybe I misunderstood what's being discussed in the forum? So if team A is ahead 55 to 45% for team B, why does Team B have a right to that recruit by a luck of the draw?

If you're going to compare this to real life, I'd have to ask, does every RL recruit sign with the team that puts in the most effort?

Absolutely not.However, it's not just effort that is factored into the equation.The recruit is going to go where his preferences match up, promised starts and minutes, certain type of offense and defense. All of these factors should eliminate any randomness, IMO. And if there is randomness after that point, there should be more preferences added to the list. Save the randomness for the game itself, it doesn't belong in recruiting.

"And if there is randomness after that point, there should be more preferences added to the list. Save the randomness for the game itself, it doesn't belong in recruiting."

Some people are complaining that preferences constitute randomness added to the game. You seem to want "more preferences added to the list" as an antidote to randomness. Seems to me seble is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I think once it's 55% to 45 % even if both Very High, recruit should go to 55%, same with 51 to 49... Simple as that.

less control over outcomes, it might (?) be more realistic, but is it more desirable for HD?

It appears, based on the decision of the owners of the game, who are privy to far more user data and customer feedback than any of the user's who might like to think and pretend they know more about the business than they actually do, that a change is more desirable for HD in the long run.

Is it going to improve HD compared to the current game?

Fox and WIS appear to think so. Whether or not you and I agree is probably irrelevant.

Does it make the game more enjoyable and worth my money?

That's a question only you can answer but it appears to me that your answer is no.

Is it going to attract and/or retain coaches?

Fox and WIS appear to think so. Whether you and I agree is probably irrelevant.

Absolutely insane gamble on WIS part...

Yes, because the current version of the game is doing a bang up job of maintaining its user base. Increasingly the only coaches staying to play the game are the ones who pay the least to play the game ... so yes, absolutely insane gamble.